Well fuck, lots to process here. As always gents, a genuinely fantastic blend of research, opinion and balanced debate with open questions.
This is a subject I personally really struggle with. There are so many variables and infinite questions that should be asked to clarify both circumstance and fact. The Human brain is capable of filling in blanks. We are as quick to pass judgement as we are to deliver forgiveness and most of the time we are absorbing information that has been conditioned before itâs delivered.
My first and strongest thought on this, is something we should all live by. âDonât be a dickâ (made more PC for Patreon) - if youâre in a friendship group or relationship that doesnât make you a better version of yourself, itâs your responsibility to change that environment. If for instance Greenwood gets called into the England squad in 2025 and in the meantime we find out that what leaked was a botched attempt at blackmail. Refused and so posted. How would you feel? If it was an out of context ramification of a requested foreplay or BDSM⊠public laundry aired. Do we feel the same way? The context of private life clarified.
There are people that run countries, governments, organisations Large and small who behave in ways that appear above the law.
âIf thereâs a fine for it, then itâs legal if youâre wealthyâ - moral vs legal đ€·đŒââïž
There was a HEFT of support for Benjamin Mendy when he was legally acquitted of the multiple counts of assault/rape and whatever else. It doesnât mean those things didnât happen. I refer back to the 2% you mentioned. Just because is hasnât been proven in a court of law, doesnât mean it didnât happen.
The likelihood is that some version of what was listened to and witnessed online for Greenwood and the now mother of his child happened, is huge. We believe our own ears and eyes.
I have no doubt that whichever way the truth falls, we only have a whisker of the information.
Those with resources will always win over those without. Not just in football.
As a Man United fan I have a very sore spot for this. First Giggs, then Greenwood and now Anthony. What is it with United? It canât just be their players. Itâs statistically impossible for one.
How many footballers over the years have âmisbehavedâ.
I think itâs essential that people are held accountable for their actions. But this needs to apply to everyone. Not just those with high profile careers to lose.
I donât have a defence or an attack on the Greenwood example. I donât have all the information.
Itâs not much to ask as a society. Just donât behave like a wanker. Itâs rarely called for and even more rarely justified.
Loosely structured ramble over.
Be nice to each other.
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